Competition


Back on July 20, we were notified by Tolly that they were doing a comparison report on Veeam Backup & Replication v5. Tolly claims to provide “fair, accurate and well-documented testing.” But what if one of your competitors hires Tolly for the testing and determines the criteria? Can it really be fair and accurate? Tolly sent us the basic test criteria, and it was obvious to us that the sponsor had cherry picked the criteria to show their product in the best possible light and to ensure that our strongest features – such our vPower functionality – would not be tested at all. In no way would these criteria constitute a comprehensive test of both products’ strengths and weaknesses.

We have repeatedly asked Tolly who is sponsoring the report but they have declined to tell us. As of this writing, Veeam has no idea who is paying Tolly for this report (but we have our suspicions). So, in an effort to be truly fair and accurate, we proposed the following to Tolly:

  • Veeam co-sponsors the tests and the report, and pays half the sponsorship fee;
  • Veeam participates in determining the test criteria on an equal basis with Tolly and the other sponsor; or, alternatively, test criteria are determined by a mutually agreed-upon neutral third party;
  • Both vendors’ representatives are present during the tests;
  • The tests are conducted in September 2011. Veeam’s key people who can participate in the project are on vacation or on other projects until September 15; and
  • The tests are conducted with Veeam Backup & Replication v6, which will be released in Q4 2011.

The above proposal was not accepted by Tolly, and we were told the process was too far along with the sponsoring vendor. They did tell us that we could sponsor our own report at a later time if we like.

My question now is how fair and accurate will this report be? According to the Fair Testing Charter (parts below, emphasis mine), we will be allowed to review the findings and provide feedback.

Finally, we provide them [Veeam] with the opportunity to give us an official commentary on their results, the essence of which is included in any documents we might publish.

It’s interesting they say the “essence of which.” To me it means that they will listen to our feedback but will edit it into an “essence” that puts their client in a better light. Likewise, “might publish” says to me that if Veeam were to come out ahead in the test, even with cherry-picked criteria, the report will never see the light of day.

It appears that Tolly has been doing this type of “fair and accurate” testing for quite some time; I just hope no one loses millions of dollars this time based on Tolly’s findings: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/compressed-into-nothingness-20100808-11qdh.html?from=age_ft (the Tolly report is available here)

Steve Duplessie from ESG has a great take on head-to-head testing and why ESG doesn’t do it: http://www.thebiggertruth.com/2010/03/the-politics-of-testing/

And I particularly like Simon Bramfitt’s assessment of Tolly: http://blog.simonbramfitt.com/2011/06/tolly-trumps/

Vendors in the backup space have also had their share of problems with Tolly, including Quest: http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-management/just-when-you-thought-backup-wars-were-dead-654?page=0,0[BB1]

It’s clear to us that one of our competitors intends to use this Tolly report as part of a competitive marketing campaign against us. Veeam did NOT participate in the testing and, from our vantage point, the criteria have been designed to avoid testing typical customer scenarios as well as very features that make Veeam Backup & Replication v5 stand out as the best solution on the market. So please treat any report from Tolly as suspect.


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Recently the results of a buyer’s guide were released by a 3rd tier analyst company known as DCIG. In this guide, CommVault Sympana 9 received top honors. CommVault issued a press release stating this fact earlier this week. In the press release, they found it necessary to call out Veeam specifically (emphasis ours):

According to the report, CommVault received “Best in Class” honors for overall functionality in comparison to other solutions in the market, across seven categories encompassing technology, management, backup, restore, deduplication, media and support. CommVault outranked offerings from legacy software providers, including EMC, Symantec, CA and IBM, as well as point-level virtualization software vendors, such as Veeam.

It is important to note some facts:

  1. This “Guide” is created by an analyst firm DCIG and technology advisory firm, SMB Research. But, it is distributed EXCLUSIVELY by CommVault, not DCIG.
  2. CommVault also sponsors DCIG web site. DCIG has the following disclaimer on their web site: “DCIG is paid a fee by CommVault® Systems, Inc. in connection with this blog. CommVault® undertakes no obligation to update, correct or modify any statements contained in this blog; these statements represent the views and opinions of DCIG only.” See here: http://sales.dciginc.com/about/index.html. Not once does CommVault disclose this relationship with DCIG, either in the guide or in the press release mentioned above.
  3. DCIG is stating that 30 vendors were identified and sent a questionnaire and 24 responses were received. The “Guide” includes Veeam as one of 24 vendors, however, Veeam never responded to the questionnaire! Here is DCIG’s description of the process: “We identified some 30 vendors who provide Virtual Server Backup Software solutions. You will find all of these vendors identified in this Buyer’s Guide. After making contact with all the vendors, we sent out a questionnaire with 130 questions. We ultimately received back 24 responses to our questionnaire.” Again, Veeam did NOT respond. How did DCIG included Veeam’s responses if Veeam didn’t respond? Is DCIG lying about the fact that they received Veeam’s response?
  4. DCIG positions this document as “The Insider’s Guide” to Evaluating Virtual Server Backup Software. However the guide is NOT based on:
    1. Customer interviews, or
    2. Technical evaluations in a lab.

    Instead, the “Guide” is based on vendor responses: “After making contact with all the vendors, we sent out a questionnaire with 130 questions. We ultimately received back 24 responses to our questionnaire.” Insider means somebody who is intimately familiar. How can DCIG claim it if they purely compiled some of the vendors responses?

The EXCLUSIVE LICENSEE of the “Guide” is the vendor who is selected as the TOP vendor by the “Guide”.  If the “Guide” was paid by the vendor, can you trust it?


Veeam released the new Backup & Replication v5 in October. The release date was marked by a Live Launch event webinar on October 20 that drew in almost 1500 attendees. The feedback that we have gotten so far has been outstanding and will provide us with the information we need to continue to improve.

As we have stated before, no other product possesses the capabilities that are available in Veeam Backup & Replication v5 with vPower. In fact, just a couple of weeks ago we found a dissatisfied Symantec customer who claimed that Veeam Backup & Replication v5 could do for him what Symantec couldn’t. We couldn’t resist and offered him the chance to try Veeam Backup & Replication. All we can say for now is so far so good!

In addition to being agentless, Veeam Backup & Replication v5 provides numerous advantages over legacy solutions such as Symantec Backup Exec, and has capabilities that Backup Exec is missing:

  • Backup Exec lacks instant VM recovery and therefore cannot eliminate the need to extract the backup and copy it to production storage when recovering an entire VM.
  • Backup Exec (agentless) lacks granular application-item recovery so it cannot provide a way out when a user accidently deletes important emails.
  • Backup Exec does not provide instant file-level recovery from an image-level backup, to any point in time, on any OS and file system, in seconds.
  • Backup Exec does not have the power to verify the recoverability of its backups.
  • Backup Exec does not offer image-based replication and as a result it is not able to offer affordable near-CDP.
  • Backup Exec DOES charge extra for deduplication, which seems to be an essential capability for any backup tool, seeing as how data volume is growing every day.
  • Multiple backups are needed for different recovery scenarios with Backup Exec, whereas Veeam only needs one.

We recently looked at a price comparison of Veeam Backup & Replication v5 with Symantec Backup Exec 2010 and were shocked at the results. Besides not providing all the functionality, Symantec Backup Exec can cost upwards of 4 times more and still has 5 times less functionality than Veeam Backup & Replication v5.

Veeam Backup & Replication v5 -
Enterprise Edition
Symantec Backup Exec 2010
Instant VM recovery Yes No
Granular application-item recovery Any application Select applications only, additional cost
File-level recovery Any file system Windows only
Recovery verification Yes No
Agentless Yes No
One backup for all recovery scenarios Always Sometimes
Synthetic full backups Yes No
Deduplication Included Extra cost
Replication Yes No
Cost € 6,329* Simple, affordable € 28,404* Complex, expensive

*EMEA MSRP for the following configuration: 4 dual-socket ESXi servers connected to a SAN and hosting 1 Oracle server, 2 Microsoft Exchange servers, 4 Active Directory domain controllers, 2 SQL Server VMs, and 2 SharePoint Portal Server VMs.

Want more proof? You can read a review by one of our Beta testers to get a detailed look into Veeam Backup & Replication v5 with vPower and until December 24, you can switch from Symantec Backup Exec to Veeam Backup & Replication v5 and get a 25% discount.

Are you satisfied with your current backup solution? Are you willing to pay over 4 times more for 5 times less functionality?


The post announcing the winners is a bit late. We were supposed to announce the winners at Veeam's VMworld party, but for those of you who were there, you know it was a bit noisy ;-) There was also a lot going on at VMworld so I didn't have time to get this post together and properly audited to announce the winners.

While we received over 20 registrations for the contest, we ended up with 12 winners of the $25 charity gift card. Of those 12 winners, we had 9 blog posts directing people to download Veeam Reporter Free Edition, the other 3 used twitter and other means to generate interest and drive downloads.

The recipients of the $25 charity gift cards are listed below, along with their blogs and their entries, this list is sorted alphabetically by last name:

First Name Last Name Blog Blog Entry for Contest
Jason Boche http://boche.net/blog/ http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2010/08/16/veeam-reporter-4-0-free-edition/
Barry Coombs www.virtualisedreality.com http://virtualisedreality.com/2010/08/17/veeam-reporter-free-edition/
Kelly Culwell http://www.virtualinsanity.com/index.php/category/guest-bloggers/
Luigi Danakos http://www.nerdblurt.com http://www.nerdblurt.com/?p=123
David Davis www.VMwareVideos.com
Chris Dearden www.jfvi.co.uk http://jfvi.co.uk/2010/08/17/manage-your-environment-help-the-world-for-free-with-veeam-reporter-4-0-free-edition/
Onur Demirel http://veeamturkiye.blogspot.com
Matt Roblin www.breathalize.co.uk http://breathalize.co.uk/2010/08/18/veeamnothing-to-report/
Alexander Samoilenko http://www.vmgu.ru http://www.vmgu.ru/news/veeam-reporter-free
Greg Stuart http://vdestination.com http://vdestination.com/2010/08/17/veeam-reporter-4-0-yours-for-free/
Brian Suhr http://www.virtualizetips.com http://www.virtualizetips.com/2010/08/veeam-reporter-free-edition-is-ready-for-prime-time/
Rick Vanover http://rickvanover.com http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/networking/?p=3298

And the winner is…

Rick Vanover! Rick is the grand prize winner and recipient of the $1,000 charity gift card. Congratulations Rick on driving the most downloads of Veeam Reporter Free Edition!

Honorable mention and $250 charity gift card goes to Jason Boche. It was a close race between Jason and Rick for the winner, less than 10 downloads separated them.

Thanks to everyone for your assistance in helping us get the word out!


Not desperate for Veeam of course, but maybe for our competitors.

Recently you may have seen a blog post created by Kelly Polanski, from Wave Break, and Jason Mattox from Vizioncore. In this blog post they say a number of things about Veeam as a company as well as about our Veeam Backup & Replication product. With the Vizioncore brand going away soon, we can only guess that this is a last ditch effort by Vizioncore marketing to try and convince customers to choose Vizioncore over Veeam. While we’re not going to address every point in the blog post, we do want to make sure our customers and ProPartners can feel confident with their chosen solution of Veeam Backup & Replication.

The intro is provided by Kelly Polanski who works for Wavelength, a marketing agency that Vizioncore has hired to help them with their social media. Wavelength is also affiliated with DCIG, a company that is known to be a “pay for play” blogger service and we assume the only place Vizioncore could turn to for something positive about their product . We’re also aware that Vizioncore is using this paid analyst briefing in their training to partners.

If you have followed Veeam’s announcements over the past several quarters then you know that Veeam is a financially strong and growing company. Our results from the first quarter of 2010 were announced several weeks ago and point to our continued success. Veeam is also an international company with offices across North America, Europe and Asia Pacific and 24x7 support worldwide. It is through our strong ProPartners that Veeam has been able to see such tremendous growth, a fact pointed out by CRN in a recent article. We’ve chosen not to name names previous to this, but the fact is that many of these partners came to Veeam because of their dissatisfaction with Vizioncore.

If you have any questions regarding the technical points of Jason Mattox’s blog post, please feel free to reach out to your local Veeam Team and schedule a time to discuss your questions with them or email me VMDoug<at>Veeam<dot>com. If you know Veeam and you’ve tried Veeam Backup & Replication then we’re sure you’ll see that most of Jason’s points were simply a desperate plea to try and spread rumors and make their product look better. Don’t believe Jason or us, put Veeam Backup & Replication in the lab and decide for yourself why Veeam is the #1 solution for VMware Backup and Disaster Recovery as chosen by SearchServerVirtualization.

Interestingly, more and more customers and partners are choosing Veeam. In 2009 Veeam added over 8,000 new customers while Vizioncore added less than 4,000* - that is two times more customers choosing Veeam! In Q1 of 2010 Veeam added 1,400 new customers while Vizioncore added less than 600* – that’s more than two times more customers choosing Veeam. The graphic representation of this is below:

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*These estimates are based on Vizioncore marketing materials.

But of course don’t just take our word for it; here is what our customers and partners have to say about Veeam:

Another interesting trend is what Google shows in the terms of interest in our brand. As you can see, Veeam continues to rise while Vizioncore continues to fall. Desperate? Maybe...

How Veeam is trending


This post is meant to be educational but I realize many of you will see it as FUD. I won’t deny that this post is an attempt at answering the FUD put forth by one of our competitors as they prepare to release a fix update to their backup product, so I guess just take everything below with an open mind and realize that the virtualization marketplace is very competitive. Customers have chosen and will continue to choose the best software for VMware backup and replication!

Changed Block Tracking

Veeam has supported CBT for over 8 months starting with our 4.0 release back in October of 2009. With the first anniversary of vSphere behind us, we’re glad to see some of the last vendors finally catching up and utilizing this technology. There’s also been some discussion online recently about possible issues with CBT, rest assured that Veeam has you covered and in over 8 months of CBT support, none of our customers has run into this issue. For more information on this, please check out this thread in our forums that also includes information on obtaining a fix if you feel you’re exposed to this issue.

Object-Level Restore

Most of you have heard by now of Veeam’s plans around Veeam Backup & Replication version 5 that includes the technology known as SureBackup. One of the things that makes me so excited about the new capabilities is that we’re going to be able to offer Universal Application Item-level Recovery – we’re not just talking about Exchange or files, but any data from any application without an additional charge for each application. Other vendors are promising object-level restore but only for Exchange and only if you purchase an additional and very expensive software tool (per mailbox) from their parent company. And yes, they’ve been promising this for years.

Volume Shadow Copy Services (VSS)

While other vendors try to make it seem like they’re the “thought leaders” when it comes to VSS, the truth is that Veeam has been leading the way in VSS for VMware backups for almost 2 years now. We knew early on that the only way to ensure proper VSS support was to write our own implementation and not rely on VMware to provide it for us. Additionally, with our VSS implementation everything is done at run time, no need to deploy and maintain a VSS agent executable on every Windows VM. Their implementation:

This driver is implemented as an .exe file which can be added to Windows 2003 and 2008 guests.

You can check out any of these previous posts on VSS if you want to know who the real thought leader is when it comes to VSS support on VMware:

Veeam Backup 2.0
Is your backup really VSS aware?
VSS and VMware ESX: What your VMware backup vendor isn’t telling you
The Great VSS Debate

Active Block What?

Now we’ve heard about this new technology that one of our competitors claims greatly improves the speed of backups. What they’re not telling you is all the limitations of this technology and the fact that it only makes FULL backups faster. Since Veeam uses a proven synthetic backup approach we only require 1 full backup. Here are some other limitations of that patent pending technology:

  1. No benefit in incremental backups (deleting NTFS data does not update disk content, so data blocks do not change and are not picked up by CBT in an incremental backup)
  2. Limited to NTFS and basic disks
  3. Limited to full ESX since it relies on the Service Console (does not work with ESXi)
  4. Not supported on direct SAN backups utilizing the vStorage API for Data Protection (90% of Veeam customers use VADP)
  5. Without built-in dedupe their “full” backups are still larger than Veeam’s.

Be Careful What You Read, It May be Paid for

I’ve seen some materials that are pointing to an analysis provided by a “pay for play” blogger. I’m not going to mention names or link to sites here because I’d rather not give anyone the traffic. My only advice here (and this goes especially for the VAR community) is to research any “independent” sources your vendor is quoting, there’s a good chance they paid for that analysis and those words.

And finally, consider this: what does it mean when a vendor promotes a survey of beta customers in which 39% of the participants claimed reliability was the most important NEW capability. If reliability is a new capability, then I understand why so many partners and customers have chosen and continue to choose Veeam Backup & Replication


A few weeks ago Veeam released Veeam Backup & Replication 4.0. I should have written a post the week it was released but I’ve been pretty busy and I also wanted to wait and get some of our customer’s reactions before writing about it. Our 4.0 release is a major milestone for us since it provides full support for the vStorage APIs for Data Protection. There appears to be a bit of confusion with some on what the vStorage APIs for Data Protection really do, especially when compared with VMware Consolidated Backup (VCB). As VMware states on the vStorage page, the vStorage APIs for Data Protection are the next generation of VCB. For a good explanation on the differences, check out my friend @Gostev’s blog over at vNotion "What is VMware vStorage API?

So why do we still have support for VCB? The simple answer is that we have a number of current customers that are using VCB and have not switched over to vSphere yet. We could have dropped support for VCB but then that would require us to maintain both 3.x and 4.x releases. Since 4.0 is an built upon 3.x and not a complete re-write of the software, we left VCB support in for our customers. The benefit is that our customers have a choice of how to process their backups: vStorage APIs, VCB or Veeam’s Service Console or Network modes. Of course I do recommend that customers use the vStorage API methods, it gives you the best performance and is also built specifically for vSphere.

Up to 10x Faster

Yes, it’s really true and our customers have posted as much on our forums. We’ve consolidated this feedback into a handy PDF document INSANE BACKUP SPEED, it’s not us saying this, it’s real people using our 4.0 product.

How is it so fast? One of the biggest reasons is Changed Block Tracking (CBT) which is included in the Virtual Disk Development Kit (VDDK). With CBT enabled for VM’s running on ESX or ESXi 4.x, VMware actually tracks the block level changes made to the VMDK. This way, when software like Veeam Backup & Replication takes a Snapshot, VMware returns a list of what blocks have changed. This significantly increases backup speed as we no longer have to try and determine the changes ourselves, VMware tells us in a matter of seconds.

The Critics

Of course anytime a vendor releases software that’s cutting edge and ahead of the rest of the field, others will try and knock it down. This recently happened on a blog sponsored by one of our competitors, claiming Veeam Backup & Replication was corrupting data. Of course when I first saw this I was a bit alarmed, but since they included a link to our forum where a user was reporting the problem, I followed the link and realized they were just sensationalizing something for their own apparent gain. Since this particular blog decides to heavily moderate comments, I thought I would post the facts here, lest any other competitors decide they want to sensationalize this non-issue.

The Facts

Taken from the Veeam Forum post:

  1. Backups are NOT corrupted.
  2. You can only run into this issue with NON-DEFAULT restore mode, in 1 restore mode of 3 existing modes.
  3. Despite what competition may be claiming, there is no actual user data loss or corruption - VM will still boot and work.

The only real issue is OS and file system check tools complaining about unexpected content of the unused disk blocks. Linux ext3 file system and disk test tools merely suspect a problem seeing unused blocks being non-zeroed, and warn about this. This is specific to certain file systems only, for example, Windows NTFS considers this situation absolutely normal.

Of course every software has bugs, the example above is a bug in our software when using 1 particular recovery method and we have a fix available and it will be included in our next release. The important piece of information is that NO DATA WAS EVER CORRUPTED, just an issue on recovery and zero byte blocks. We are very thankful to our active forum community and for bringing this to our attention. Veeam’s motto after all is “Listening to You, Building the Tools You Need”, it’s on the back of all of our business cards. I’d like to point out the below points about our user forum:

  • Our forum is one of our greatest resources where people share their experience, best practices and getting support from Veeam and the community
  • We understand that our competitors are so desperate that they will continue using our own forum to try and fool the community
  • We will continue to be honest and direct with our customers in our forum vs. ending all the threads with ‘please contact our support’
  • User feedback: The quality and effectiveness of this Forum alone would be enough to justify switching to Veeam, even if the product wasn't superior to its competition (as it is at the moment). It seems just too good to be true... I hope it will continue this way!

Conclusion

Sorry to waste so much space on this post answering the competition. If they would allow comments on their own blog I would have written it there. In closing I just want to say that we encourage everyone to evaluate our software and make decisions for themselves. Put us in the lab and you will see, others promise, Veeam delivers!


If you're on the Veeam distribution list you'll be getting some of the text below today as part of an ecard. I wanted to go ahead and blog it here as well because I think it's an important message from Veeam. Sorry if this seems to be a bit of a marketing message (but it's important to me):

"We've received numerous questions from our partners and customers on why a competing product won the Gold award in the Business Continuity & Data Protection category. We know that judges are put in a difficult position when they have to choose from almost 200 products in a short period of time. For this award, the judges cannot, and do not, install, test or evaluate the products in a lab. Instead, they mostly rely on vendor statements in their judging process. We encourage all customers to "Put Veeam in the Lab" for a head-to-head comparison with competitive products, and make the right decision for your environment. We are confident you will find out why Veeam Backup & Replication is #1 for VMware backup."

So, if you're interested in seeing why Veeam is #1, fill out the form here and we'll send you some information as well as help you get started on evaluating Veeam Backup & Replication in YOUR environment so you can makeup your own mind on who the winner really is.


Just a quick update to let everyone know that the Veeam videos for the VMworld contest are in and have been posted to the forums for voting. I can't endorse any of them here but of course I'm sure we all have favorites. Do you? Well then vote!

We've heard that some people are having issues registering on our forums. We do apologize for that but in an effort to keep out spam we have to dis-allow certain email domains (gmail, hotmail) and we also have a CAPTCHA that has been made a bit more user friendly (black and white instead of color). I didn't realize until just the other day that some color CAPTCHA's are very difficult for people who are color blind.

Anyway, vote for your favorite and be sure to leave a comment. There's a bonus prize of a Flip going to the person with the best comment.

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