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		<title>How much should VMware backup cost?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We recently looked at a price comparison of Veeam Backup &#038; Replication v5 with Symantec Backup Exec 2010 and were shocked at the results. Besides not providing all the functionality, Symantec Backup Exec can cost upwards of 4 times more and still has 5 times less functionality than Veeam Backup &#038; Replication v5.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veeam released the new <a href="http://www.veeam.com/vmware-esx-backup.html">Backup &amp; Replication v5</a> in October. The release date was marked by a <a href="http://www.veeam.com/go/v5-launch-replay">Live Launch event webinar</a> on October 20 that drew in almost 1500 attendees. The feedback that we have gotten so far has been outstanding and will provide us with the information we need to continue to improve.</p>
<p>As we have stated before, no other product possesses the capabilities that are available in Veeam Backup &amp; Replication v5 with vPower. In fact, just a couple of weeks ago we found a <a href="http://www.veeam.com/blog/ryanw-%E2%80%93-where-are-you.html">dissatisfied Symantec customer</a> who claimed that Veeam Backup &amp; Replication v5 could do for him what Symantec couldn’t. We couldn’t resist and offered him the chance to try Veeam Backup &amp; Replication. All we can say for now is so far so good!</p>
<p>In addition to being agentless, <strong>Veeam Backup &amp; Replication v5</strong> provides numerous advantages over legacy solutions such as Symantec Backup Exec, and has capabilities that Backup Exec is missing:</p>
<ul>
<li>Backup Exec lacks instant VM recovery and therefore cannot eliminate the need to extract the backup and copy it to production storage when recovering an entire VM.</li>
<li>Backup Exec (agentless) lacks granular application-item recovery so it cannot provide a way out when a user accidently deletes important emails.</li>
<li>Backup Exec does not provide instant file-level recovery from an image-level backup, to any point in time, on any OS and file system, in seconds.</li>
<li>Backup Exec does not have the power to verify the recoverability of its backups.</li>
<li>Backup Exec does not offer image-based replication and as a result it is not able to offer affordable near-CDP.</li>
<li>Backup Exec DOES charge extra for deduplication, which seems to be an essential capability for any backup tool, seeing as how data volume is growing every day.</li>
<li>Multiple backups are needed for different recovery scenarios with Backup Exec, whereas Veeam only needs one.</li>
</ul>
<p>We recently looked at a price comparison of <strong>Veeam Backup &amp; Replication v5</strong> with Symantec Backup Exec 2010 and were shocked at the results. Besides not providing all the functionality, Symantec Backup Exec can cost upwards of 4 times more and still has 5 times less functionality than <strong>Veeam Backup &amp; Replication v5</strong>.</p>
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<td width="209" valign="bottom"><strong>Veeam Backup &amp; Replication v5 -<br />
Enterprise Edition</strong></td>
<td width="214" valign="bottom"><strong>Symantec Backup Exec 2010</strong></td>
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<td width="225" valign="bottom">Instant VM recovery</td>
<td width="209" valign="bottom">Yes</td>
<td width="214" valign="bottom">No</td>
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<td width="225" valign="bottom">Granular application-item recovery</td>
<td width="209" valign="bottom">Any application</td>
<td width="214" valign="bottom">Select applications only, additional cost</td>
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<td width="225" valign="bottom">File-level recovery</td>
<td width="209" valign="bottom">Any file system</td>
<td width="214" valign="bottom">Windows only</td>
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<td width="225" valign="bottom">Recovery verification</td>
<td width="209" valign="bottom">Yes</td>
<td width="214" valign="bottom">No</td>
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<td width="225" valign="bottom">Agentless</td>
<td width="209" valign="bottom">Yes</td>
<td width="214" valign="bottom">No</td>
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<td width="225" valign="bottom">One backup for all recovery scenarios</td>
<td width="209" valign="bottom">Always</td>
<td width="214" valign="bottom">Sometimes</td>
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<td width="225" valign="bottom">Synthetic full backups</td>
<td width="209" valign="bottom">Yes</td>
<td width="214" valign="bottom">No</td>
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<td width="225" valign="bottom">Deduplication</td>
<td width="209" valign="bottom">Included</td>
<td width="214" valign="bottom">Extra cost</td>
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<td width="225" valign="bottom">Replication</td>
<td width="209" valign="bottom">Yes</td>
<td width="214" valign="bottom">No</td>
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<td width="225" valign="bottom"><strong>Cost</strong></td>
<td width="209" valign="bottom"><strong>€ 6,329* Simple, affordable </strong></td>
<td width="214" valign="bottom"><strong>€ 28,404* Complex, expensive </strong></td>
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<p>*EMEA MSRP for the following configuration: 4 dual-socket ESXi servers connected to a SAN and hosting 1 Oracle server, 2 Microsoft Exchange servers, 4 Active Directory domain controllers, 2 SQL Server VMs, and 2 SharePoint Portal Server VMs.</p>
<p>Want more proof? You can read a <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tuxyturvy.com/blog/index.php?/archives/70-Veeam-Backup-The-Next-Generation.html#extended">review by one of our Beta testers</a> to get a detailed look into Veeam Backup &amp; Replication v5 with vPower and until December 24, you can switch from Symantec Backup Exec to <strong>Veeam Backup &amp; Replication v5</strong> and get a <a href="http://www.veeam.com/go/backup-upgrade/">25% discount</a>.</p>
<p>Are you satisfied with your current backup solution? Are you willing to pay over 4 times more for 5 times less functionality?</p>
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		<title>Veeam Backup &amp; Replication 4</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>vmdoug</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[backup]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Competition]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago Veeam released Veeam Backup &#38; Replication 4.0. I should have written a post the week it was released but I’ve been pretty busy and I also wanted to wait and get some of our customer’s reactions before writing about it. Our 4.0 release is a major milestone for us since it <a href="http://www.veeam.com/blog/veeam-backup-replication-4.html" class="more-link">More &#62;</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks ago Veeam released <a href="http://www.veeam.com/vmware-esx-backup.html" target="_blank">Veeam Backup &amp; Replication 4.0</a>. I should have written a post the week it was released but I’ve been pretty busy and I also wanted to wait and get some of our customer’s reactions before writing about it. Our 4.0 release is a major milestone for us since it provides full support for the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.vmware.com/products/vstorage-apis-for-data-protection/" target="_blank">vStorage APIs for Data Protection</a>. There appears to be a bit of confusion with some on what the vStorage APIs for Data Protection really do, especially when compared with <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.vmware.com/products/vi/consolidated_backup.html" target="_blank">VMware Consolidated Backup (VCB)</a>. As VMware states on the vStorage page, the vStorage APIs for Data Protection are the next generation of VCB. For a good explanation on the differences, check out my friend <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/gostev" target="_blank">@Gostev</a>’s blog over at vNotion "<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.vnotion.com/?p=181" target="_blank">What is VMware vStorage API?</a>”</p>
<p>So why do we still have support for VCB? The simple answer is that we have a number of current customers that are using VCB and have not switched over to vSphere yet. We could have dropped support for VCB but then that would require us to maintain both 3.x and 4.x releases. Since 4.0 is an built upon 3.x and not a complete re-write of the software, we left VCB support in for our customers. The benefit is that our customers have a choice of how to process their backups: vStorage APIs, VCB or Veeam’s Service Console or Network modes. Of course I do recommend that customers use the vStorage API methods, it gives you the best performance and is also built specifically for vSphere.</p>
<h2>Up to 10x Faster</h2>
<p>Yes, it’s really true and our customers have posted as much on our <a href="http://www.veeam.com/forums/" target="_blank">forums</a>. We’ve consolidated this feedback into a handy PDF document <a href="http://www.veeam.com/files/customer_success/insane-backup-speed-customer-feedback-4.0.pdf" target="_blank">INSANE BACKUP SPEED</a>, it’s not us saying this, it’s real people using our 4.0 product.</p>
<p>How is it so fast? One of the biggest reasons is Changed Block Tracking (CBT) which is included in the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.vmware.com/support/developer/vddk/" target="_blank">Virtual Disk Development Kit</a> (VDDK). With CBT enabled for VM’s running on ESX or ESXi 4.x, VMware actually tracks the block level changes made to the VMDK. This way, when software like Veeam Backup &amp; Replication takes a Snapshot, VMware returns a list of what blocks have changed. This significantly increases backup speed as we no longer have to try and determine the changes ourselves, VMware tells us in a matter of seconds.</p>
<h2>The Critics</h2>
<p>Of course anytime a vendor releases software that’s cutting edge and ahead of the rest of the field, others will try and knock it down. This recently happened on a blog sponsored by one of our competitors, claiming <a rel="nofollow" href="http://virtualization-spotlight.com/data-corruption-issue-discovered-with-veeam-backup-and-replication/" target="_blank">Veeam Backup &amp; Replication was corrupting data</a>. Of course when I first saw this I was a bit alarmed, but since they included a link to our <a href="http://www.veeam.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=2187" target="_blank">forum where a user was reporting the problem</a>, I followed the link and realized they were just sensationalizing something for their own apparent gain. Since this particular blog decides to heavily moderate comments, I thought I would post the facts here, lest any other competitors decide they want to sensationalize this non-issue.</p>
<h4>The Facts</h4>
<p>Taken from the Veeam Forum post:</p>
<blockquote>
<ol>
<li>Backups are NOT corrupted.</li>
<li>You can only run into this issue with NON-DEFAULT restore mode, in 1 restore mode of 3 existing modes.</li>
<li>Despite what competition may be claiming, there is no actual user data loss or corruption - VM will still boot and work.</li>
</ol>
<p>The only real issue is OS and file system check tools complaining about unexpected content of the unused disk blocks. Linux ext3 file system and disk test tools merely suspect a problem seeing unused blocks being non-zeroed, and warn about this. This is specific to certain file systems only, for example, Windows NTFS considers this situation absolutely normal.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course every software has bugs, the example above is a bug in our software when using 1 particular recovery method and we have a fix available and it will be included in our next release. The important piece of information is that NO DATA WAS EVER CORRUPTED, just an issue on recovery and zero byte blocks. We are very thankful to our active forum  community and for bringing this to our attention. Veeam’s motto after all is “Listening to You, Building the Tools You Need”, it’s on the back of all of our business cards. I’d like to point out the below points about our user <a href="http://www.veeam.com/forums" target="_blank">forum</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Our forum is one of our greatest resources where people share their experience, best practices and getting support from Veeam and the community</li>
<li>We understand that our competitors are so desperate that they will continue using our own forum to try and fool the community</li>
<li>We will continue to be honest and direct with our customers in our forum vs. ending all the threads with ‘please contact our support’</li>
<li>User feedback: <em><strong>The quality and effectiveness of this Forum alone would be enough to justify switching to Veeam, even if the product wasn't superior to its competition (as it is at the moment). It seems just too good to be true... I hope it will continue this way!</strong></em></li>
</ul>
<h2>Conclusion</h2>
<p>Sorry to waste so much space on this post answering the competition. If they would allow comments on their own blog I would have written it there. In closing I just want to say that we encourage everyone to evaluate our software and make decisions for themselves. <a title="Put us in the Lab" href="http://veeammeup.com/2009/09/put-us-in-the-lab.html" target="_blank">Put us in the lab</a> and you will see, others promise, Veeam delivers!</p>
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